What is the real difference between swami-narayan and gujarati based swaminarayan?

Hinduism has always considered Lord Vishnu as narayan or Hari. All incarnations (avatars) of Vishnu are also considered as narayan as well, such as Ram Narayan or Krishna Narayan. Most of us have also seen Narad Muni saying “Narayan Narayan” in many TV serial, by saying “Narayan Narayan”, Narad Muni remembers his supreme lord Vishnu.


Although Narayan word is reserved for Lord Vishnu, there are many impostor (बहुरूपिया) sampradays in India who uses the word Narayan for reason to earn profit of it. I am from Gujarat, therefore I will describe reality of Gujarati swaminarayan sampradays.

Word ‘swamianrayan’ is made of two words: ‘swami’ and ‘narayan’. Until 18th century, in Gujarat swaminarayan referred to Vishnu; but since beginning of 18th century, power hungry business faith (sampradays) made up fake god as swaminarayan. Gujarati swaminarayan sampradays considers swaminarayan as a one word. Gujarati swaminarayan sampradays considers their swaminarayan is supreme to Brhama, Vishnu and Mahesh, whereas whole hinduism has always considered Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh supreme. Gujarati Swaminarayn sampradays absolutely shares no connection with Vishnu. Swaminarayan followers feel guilt to even take the name of Krishna or Ram. If you ever visit any swaminarayan temple, and say ‘Jai Shri Krishna’ or ‘Jai Siya Ram’, they will look at you like you have 4 head.

May be not all is at fault cause of swaminarayan; it is what came after swaminarayan is at fault. Swaminarayan wrote shiksapatri and I quote from shiksapatri sok 108.

स श्रीकृष्णः परंब्रह्म भगवान् पुरुषोत्तमः ।
उपास्य इष्टदेवो नः सर्वाविर्भावकारणम् ॥ 108॥

Translation: The Lord, Shree Krishna is the greatest entity. I admire Him the most. He is the cause of all incarnations and is thus truly worthy to be worshipped. 

Swaminarayan mentioned in his shiksapatri that Krishna is Prabhram purshottam, but in many of swaminarayan sampraday’s temple have listed Krishna as a dev.

Capture.PNGEvidence is in the picture above. BAPS swaminarayan temple is clearly not following what is told by swaminarayan. BAPS has gone on further to create their own book which they consider better to Bhagwad Geeta, Ramayan, Ved or Puran. If hindus continue to follow made sampradays blindly then it will be demise for Hinduism. I beg to the people to not follow or donate any money to their cause.

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  1. Why patels questions ramayana/mahabharata superiority ?? Why baps patels insult ram-krishna avatars of narayan and calls them secondary ? Why patels feels ordinary ghanshyam pandey was lord ?

    Answers: millions of patels converted into islam and other millions of patels got raped by mughals. Both fully converted patels and partial converted baps patels have blood/dna of mughals dynasty. All these mughal category patels will always doubt ram-krishna superiority.

    These mughal’s dynasty patels gets funding to disrupt the sanatan dharm. These mughals patels are expert in reverse teaching and making money from fools. They are in business of hawala, foreign black money transactions. That is primary reason why they build temples globally and why they do handshake (paid handshake) to famous personalities.

    Gay, pramukh swami of baps said: delhi akshardham was in there radar since 1950, because he believes one who invades delhi will get entire country captured. These mughals patels are playing very safe game, by keeping all the process/tradition/policy of sanatan dharm as-is. No one should doubt any tactics. Keep the process same but manipulate the entire product.

    Modern Terrorism : THROUGH OUT THE WAR GAME,
    Keep insulting sanatan dharm supreme god, and teach reverse that ANY ORDINARY ghantal Guru ghanshyam is supreme. Keep making money and keep doing hawala transactions globally.

    Shikshapatri verse 1: I, Sahajananda Swami, within my heart, meditate and worship Lord KRISHNA, whose left Radha is standing by, on whose right side resides Lakshmi.

    Shikshapatri verse 102 : DHARM means KRISHNA BHAKTI.

    Shikshapatri verse 103 : BHAKTI means KRISHNA’s LOVE.

    Shikshapatri verse 104 : VAIRAGAYA means KRISHNA’s attachment.

    Shikshapatri verse 105 : JIVA is AKSHAR (Non-Destructible) ATMA.

    Shikshapatri verse 106 : MAYA is KRISHNA’s Shakti.

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    Shikshapatri verse 108 : KRISHNA is PARAM-BRAHM (Supreme Nirrakaar Virat-Roop form).

    Shikshapatri verse 108 : KRISHNA is PURUSHTTOM (Supreme Sakaar form).

    Shikshapatri verse 108 : KRISHNA is BHAGWAN.(Supreme Ishwar)

    (KRISHNA IS PARAM-BRAHM, SUPREME PURUSHOTTAM and BHAGWAN).

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    Shikshapatri verse 109 : KRISHNA is NAR-NARAYAN.
    ARJUN is NAR, KRISHNA is NARAYAN.

    Shikshapatri verse 111/112 : Lord Krishna has infinite forms. He can be show with/without Radha, with 2-hands, with 4-hands, with 1008-hands and with Infinite hands.

    Shikshapatri verse 113 : Whole Universe should pray to KRISHNA. There’s no other Salvation.

    Shikshapatri verse 114: Biggest AIM of life should be “KRISHNA’s Bhakti and Satsang about KRISHNA” .

    Shikshapatri verse 115 : Never worship any SOULS (AKSHAR).

    Shikshapatri verse 116 : Worship Lord Krishna, by first connecting SOUL with the Brahm (Matter).

    Shikshapatri verse 117 : To understand supreme lord KRISHNA, read 10th-contos of Srimad Bhawat everyday (or atleast once a year).

    Shikshapatri verse 121: GOLAK is SUPREME DHAM, and is AKSHAR (Non-destructible).

    Shikshapatri verse 130/131 : I, Sahajananda Swami have created 6-temple of lord KRISHNA and his various forms (lke Laxmi-Narayan). Follow proper ceremonies to worship Lord Krishna in these temples. Anyone visiting these Krishna’s temple should be offered Food and Grains.

    Shikshapatri verse 19: Jagannathpuri Lord Krishna prasad is AMRUT.

    Shikshapatri verse 29: Ignore all shastra/scriptures which doubts superiority of Lord Krishna and His incarnations.

    Shikshapatri verse 39: NEVER GIVE-UP on Lord KRISHNA’s BHAKTI.

    Shikshapatri verse 42: Apply Lord Krishna’s GOPI chandan TILAK on forehead.

    Shikshapatri verse 43: Krishna’s vertical Tilak and RED DOT of Radha/Laxmi.

    Shikshapatri verse 44: Lord Krishna’s wife TULSI Kanthi and a vertical Tilak.

    Shikshapatri verse 47 : Lord SHIV and Lord NARAYAN are ONE.

    Shikshapatri verse 49: Pray to Lord KRISHNA very first in the morning.

    Shikshapatri verse 54: Chant RADHA-KRISHNA mantra everyday.

    Shikshapatri verse 56: Worship LITTLE KRISHNA’s saligram (Vishnu) MURTI.

    Shikshapatri verse 57: Recite holy names of Lord Krishna.

    Shikshapatri verse 58: Never eat/drink without offering first to Lord Krishna.

    Shikshapatri verse 63: Every evening go-to Lord KRISHNA’s Temple.

    Shikshapatri verse 64: Do Sat-Sang about Lord Krishna’s life and teachings.

    Shikshapatri verse 81-82: Follow Vithalnathji Vallabhacharya prescribed fasts, festivals and mode of worship of Lord Krishna.

    Shikshapatri verse 86: Eclipse day chant mantra of Lord Krishna.

    Shikshapatri verse 93-95 : The four Vedas, Shrimad Bhagavat, Vishna-Sahasranama from Mahabharat, Shri Bhagavat Gita, Shri Vasudeva-Mahatmya from Vishnu-Khand in Skand-Purana, and Yajnavalkya-Smriti are chief scriptures.

    Shikshapatri verse 98: Known the Supreme Lord by reading the Tenth Skandas of Shrimad Bhagavat and the Fifth Skandas of Shrimad Bhagavat

    Shikshapatri Verse-99
    (1) The tenth of Srimad Bhagvad, (2) fifth skanda of Srimad Bhagvad shall and (3) the Yagnavalkya Smruti shall be treated as favorite (1) Bhakti shastras, (2) Yoga shastras and (3) Dharmashastra respectively.

    Shikshapatri Verse-100
    Vyas–sutras and Shri Bhagvad Gita by Ramanujacharya shall be treated as my favorite Shastras.

    Shikshapatri verse 147: Donate 10% of your income in name of KRISHNA to build Krishna’s temples.

    Shikshapatri verse 212 : May Lord Shri KRISHNA, Destroy all miseries, Protect Bhakti with Dharma and Give desired happiness to all.

    Guru’s are tourist guide, who are supposed to show the path of the mountain-peak during the hike or these guru’s are local drivers who will give you ride to the destination. BAPS Problem, one gets engaged/looted/married/RA,PED by the guru/guide/driver and than the individual forgets the “TRINITY” destination.

    TRUTH PREVAILS !! READ THE SHIKSHAPATRI VERSES AGAIN AND AGAIN !!

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    • Bhai tu Ramayan vanchi le; Shri Raam was hunting Deer for leather, cause it was a golder leather.

      If you have any problem, tell your bava to remove Shri Ram’s murti from your temple.

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    • RAM is TRINITY . He has created, preserved and he will be destroy (eaten). Those who can make, they have rights to destroy.

      Killing anyone in a MOVIE doesn’t means they are getting killed in real life.

      This is what KRISHNA teaches Arjun. Don’t think MOVIE is real. End of the MOVIE all souls belongs to PRODUCER, and that soul is non-destructible (AKSHAR).

      Deer killed or not killed, deer eaten or not eaten. All Happens in Movie.

      Who destroyed somnath temple ? Mughals/babars/ghazni
      Who built is back vallabh bhai patel, mahtma gandhi and munshi.

      Middle-east ruler : oppose religion of sindu people, who live other side of sindhu.

      How to destroy them ? By Opposing superiorty of ramamyan/mahabharat
      Why oppose ? So spread there 1200-old religion to replace sanatan dharm

      Sanatan dharm which have history of satyayug-trinity, tretayug-ram, dwaparyug-krishna. Go back millions year in sanatan dharm and there’s no darkness. Krishna-ram-trinity has enlightened it forever.

      What’s baps doing today ??
      Hiding original shikshapatri.

      What’s baps core teaching saar ??
      All those bawa, baba, swami’s are god.

      What’s baps swami’s doing today ??
      Treating girls as second class citizens, so they can run there business without any accident.

      Shikshapatri verse 113 : whole universe should pray to krishna. There’s no other path for salvation (MUKTI).

      Shikshapatri verse 115 : never worship any souls (akshar).
      Why never worship any souls, because you don’t know all the dirt which happens on behind. Even night sweat of those baba’s dis-qualifies them to be worshiped.

      Sanatan dharm which have history of satyayug-trinity, tretayug-ram, dwaparyug-krishna. Go back millions year in sanatan dharm and there’s no darkness. Krishna-ram-trinity has enlightened it forever.

      Anyone challenging the superiority of Sanatan Dharm, will of-curse have blood/dna of Mughals (forcefully or by choice).

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    • Haha. Swaminarayan follower Raam shu che ae kya thi janvana.. Shri Raam was the king at the time he exiled Sitaji cause someone pointed finger at Seetaji. And as a king, he wanted to set right path for future leaders to follow; that’s why GandhiJi often talked about Raam Rajya.

      Ramayan says; when Dashrath died in Shri Ram’s viyog; Shri Ram gained years left to live by Dashrath and Shri Ram lived those years in viyog of Sitaji, that is why Shri Ram exciled Sita ji.

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    • Who destroyed somnath temple ? Mughals/babars/ghazni
      Who built is back vallabh bhai patel, mahtma gandhi and munshi.

      Middle-east ruler : oppose religion of sindu people, who live other side of sindhu.
      How to destroy them ? By Opposing superiorty of ramamyan/mahabharat
      Why oppose ? So spread there 1200-old religion to replace sanatan dharm

      Sanatan dharm which have history of satyayug-trinity, tretayug-ram, dwaparyug-krishna. Go back millions year in sanatan dharm and there’s no darkness. Krishna-ram-trinity has enlightened it forever.

      What’s baps doing today ??
      Hiding original shikshapatri.

      What’s baps core teaching saar ??
      All those bawa, baba, swami’s are god.

      What’s baps swami’s doing today ??
      Treating girls as second class citizens, so they can run there business without any accident.

      Shikshapatri verse 113 : whole universe should pray to krishna. There’s no other path for salvation (MUKTI).

      Shikshapatri verse 115 : never worship any souls (akshar).
      Why never worship any souls, because you don’t know all the dirt which happens on behind. Even night sweat of those baba’s dis-qualifies them to be worshiped.

      Sanatan dharm which have history of satyayug-trinity, tretayug-ram, dwaparyug-krishna. Go back millions year in sanatan dharm and there’s no darkness. Krishna-ram-trinity has enlightened it forever.

      Anyone challenging the superiority of Sanatan Dharm, will of-curse have blood/dna of Mughals (forcefully or by choice). Please check with your ancestors.

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    • Your a BAPS followers and BAPS has DNA/Blood of Mughals (by force).

      Rama/Sita pair is always together in REAL life. They both made many movies and there role keeps changing

      In Satya-Yuga Movie : VISHNU married LAXMI many times, so did SHIV-Parvati.
      In Treta-Yuga Movie : RAM exiled SITA, so SHIV left PARVATI.
      In Dwapar-Yug Movie : KRISHNA married infinite forms of LAXMI.

      RAM is/was Producer of the Movie. A treta-yug movie required exile scene is an movie.

      Your born from Mughal Dynasty DNA/Blood, so you don’t know anything real which happens beyond Movie.

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    • Bcoz he was a true ruler. He did it to establish true dharma in society when a person of his dynasty spoke against them. And Rama & Krishna were both borned to takeaway curses of Jaya & Vijaya.

      Shisyas of Fabricated saffron cloth like you will never under understand these divine stories.

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  2. Talk more on how swaminarayans themselves don’t follow swaminarayan, the god’s, true message:live to follow the shikshapatri which states to follow Krishna. Swaminarayan was a guru not a god. If he were to come down to earth today he would go to Vadtal, original swaminarayan, not BAPS Akshardham, to do darshan.
    Jai Siya Ram
    Jai Shree Krishna

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  3. ” If you ever visit any swaminarayan temple, and say ‘Jai Shri Krishna’ or ‘Jai Siya Ram’, they will look at you like you have 4 head”

    Everyone has a “4 head” you fool

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      • Look at this nonsense video! BAPS is the biggest crock on this planet and glad I am not a part of it. BAPS acts like they own this planet, but they are offending the real owner, Supreme Lord, Bhagavan Sri Krishna!

        Look at this video and tell me! Would you want your child to watch this and say, “oh, this nilkanth is supreme God!” LOL. BAPS IS THE WORST! May all of its orange goons and idiot followers never get any more human births, they should become animals and suffer birth and death for eternity.Unfortunately, they are accumulating good MATERIAL karma and will continuously get human births, but NEVER achieve the real success of human life, shelter at the feet of Purna Pursottam Bhagavan Sri Krishna!

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