In Hinduism, there are 4 main yugs: Satya Yug, Treta Yug, Dwapar Yug and Kali Yug. Currently, humans are living in Kali Yug. In past, there were many people who called themselves god/bhagwan, and many will take birth and call themselves god, but one should understand god.In this article, with some simple basic knowledge about Hinduism, I will prove why swaminarayan is not the god. Click here to read why BAPS is worst for Hinduism.
Little about myself, I’m an Engineer. Being an Engineer, I believe that there is always reason for everything. I come from Gujarati community. In recent years, swaminarayan has become very popular in Gujarati community, which concerns me a lot. I have strong points to prove that swaminarayan is not the god.
Swaminarayan followers believes that he was incarnation of Lord Krishna. Lord Krishna, himself, was an incarnation of Lord Vishnu. Ancient text of “Puranabharati” describes Lord Vishnu’s Dashavatara as follows; Matsya, Kurma, Varaha, Narasimha, Vamana, Parashurama, Maryada Purshottam Shri RAM, Purn Purshottam Shri Krishna, Buddha and Kalki; Ved and many other purans also describes most of the avatar. Lord Vishnu is still to incarnate as a Kalki; Kalki will be the 10th and final incarnation of Vishnu, it has been foretold to appear at the end of Kali Yug. Kalki will end Kali Yug and will start new Satya Yug.
- If swaminarayan is incarnation of Krishna, then he would have been ultimately 10th avatar of Lord Vishnu. Looking around current ongoing crisis in the world, anyone can clearly tell that we’re not leaving in Satya Yug. In contrast, for some reason, let’s just believe for a minute that swaminarayan was incarnation of Lord Krishna, then it would make “Dashavatara” story hoax. Either swaminarayan or Dashavatara story is false and fake, one of the story has to be hoax to prove my above theory. I lean towards swaminarayan being fake.
- On side note, during 14th century in West Bengal, India, “Chaitanya Mahaprabhu” spiritual teacher founded Gaudiya Vishanavism. Chaitanya Mahaprabhu followers believe that he was incarnation of Shri Krishna. Sarcastically and statistically speaking, Shri Krishna is due to born any time soon.
Swaminarayan books claim that Lord Hanuman came to swaminarayan, and Lord Hanuman expressed desired to worship swaminarayan for life time.
- When Hanuman Ji after finding the whereabouts of Sita ma, Hanuman Ji went to see Shri Ram at kishkindha. Hanuman Ji told the entire story of what happened in Lanka and how he found Sita ma. Shri Ram asked Hanuman ji for a boon, and Hanuman Ji only asked for following.
नाथ भगति अति सुखदायनी। देहु कृपा करि अनपायनी।।
सुनि प्रभु परम सरल कपि बानी। एवमस्तु तब कहेउ भवानी।।
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- Above slok is from Sunderkand (33.1), Hanuman Ji only and only ask for Prabhu Ram’s Bhakti.
Famous sloks from Bhagvat Geeta as follows
Above sloks translate that “Whenever virtue subsides and wickedness prevails, I manifest Myself. To establish virtue, to destroy evil, to save the good I come from Yuga (age) to Yuga”. What adharm swaminarayan destroy? Swaminarayan had a very good relationship with Britishers. Jaliyawala bag kand and cruelty of Britishers are well-known. If swaminarayan is really the god, then why did he not destroy evil Britishers and stopped cruelty from all over the world?? Instead swaminaryan met Britishers more than 1 time, and supported Britishers, because of this millions of innocent people died all around the world. Supporting adharm also makes your adharmi. swaminarayan is nothing but adharmi.
Swaminarayan built temple for himself land given by Britishers. No god ever built temple for themselves. Ram and Krishna both were king, yet they didn’t build temple for themselves. Hindu has tendency to pray to anyone who sits in the temple. Swaminarayan was smart to figure it out, and built a temple for himself.
Mahatma Gandhi’s view on swaminarayan. Mahatma Gandhi is a well-known figure around the world. Mahatma Gandhi also somewhat criticized swaminarayan. On Thursday July 25th, 1918; Mahatma Gandhi wrote letter to Maganlal in which Mahatma Gandhi never addressed swaminarayan as Bhagwan and criticized that swaminarayan tradition is not true vaishnava tradition. Gandhi Ji goes on to mention that swaminarayan all sentimentalism and not to compare swaminrayan traditions with true vaishnav tradition. To read a full article click here
- Even Mahatma Gandhi knew that swaminarayan practice are not true Vaishnava tradition, but current sampraday with hands full of greed made swaminarayan a god.
At times, hindu would involve in violence against Islam, but it is very sad to see that handful sects are dividing our own hindu religion, and made their own god supreme. Hinduism is considered the oldest religion in the world; but the oldest religion has been divided into Buddhism, Sikh, Jainism, and is now on path to divide further. Swamianrayan is also on the same path, we should unite all Hindus by following centuries old traditions and not by following any new modern world traditions.
Dear ‘Shashikala Devi@ & ‘Sanatan dharma way’, before giving blasphemous comments and calling any sampradaya ‘Mayavadi’ it’s important for you to find out true facts about it. Not delving into Shastras and just assuming does you no justice and only makes you sin further by blaspheming.
In my next comment, I will be putting forwards to you some hard evidence from bonafide Scriptures and you will repent for your blasphemous comments.
There are various Purans by Sri Ved Vyas that state the coming of Swaminarayan Bhagwan/Hari/HariKrusha (some of many names He has been known by).
To classify a sampradaya valid there are certain processes to follow which have been followed by esteemed Saints of the Sampradaya during Swaminarayan Bhagwan’s time as no doubt even then during His very holy presence there were indeed many who revolted and said, ‘God cannot be on Earth in Kaliyug’ and this is all fake etc.
By the holy grace of Shree Swaminarayan, some changed their ways. and others fell to their demise. Please don’t be one of them.
Passing comments without knowing facts is as good as denying the very existence of Suryadev when you can see Him in the sky, is as if having thrown a whole fistful of dust unto Him to blind Him as you cannot handle His effulgence and that very same dust falls into your eyes as your human sense cannot defy the divine.
Stay tuned and you shall know!
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It’s very easy to manipulate my Sanatan Dharma shastra by having own publication.
But it must be hard to manipulate your swaminarayan dharma’s shastra such as sahajanand written Shikshapatri. Is it not?
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My dear Prabhu,
It is easy to manipulate anything if one wished to. All it takes is some knowledge of Sanskrit and some following and other things. The point I made before was referencing from Purans, Samhitas, etc which have existed long before.
For any Sampraday to flourish, its publications (Granth) are necessary, but the publications must be in line with the roots of Sanatan Dharma which all bonafide main shastras of the Swaminarayan Sampraday are; these are mainly Shreemad Satsangi Jeevan and the Vachanamrut. Before blaspheming, have you ever heard of these or read about them?
Let me clarify that there are only two dioceses of the Swaminarayan Sampraday.
Nar Narayan Dev Gadi (Headed by Adi Acharya Sri Ayodhyaprasadji Mahara and currently by His Holiness 1008 Shri Koshalendra Prasadji Maharajj) and Laxmi Narayan Dev Gadi (Headed by Adi Acharya Shri Raghuvirji Maharaj and currently headed by His Holiness 1008 Sri Rakeshprasadji Maharaj), established by Swaminarayan Bhagwan Himself and who were his adopted sons (the Adi Acharyas) and appointed successors as specified in the Shikshapatri.
The Shikshapatri manipulation you mention is common amongst those who do not belong to the above two bonafide dioceses. The likes of BAPS, Maninanagar Swami Bapa, etc, who, unfortunately, deviate from the main philosophy propounded by Bhagwan Swaminarayan for their own gratifications. You will also see such deviated cults within other sampradayas too. After all, this is Kaliyug, everybody wants to be God if they get a chance to be one!
In the original Shikshapatri, the word Shri Krushna is mentioned which unfortunately is omitted by the above-deviated cults. But to understand the Shikshapatri, you MUST read the Shikshapatri Arth Deepika/Bhashya which elaborates each and every Shloka with Praman (proofs) from Sanatan Dharma Shastras. This Bhashya is written by Shatanand Swami who has also authored the Shreemad Satsangi Jeevan which is our Dharmashastra and present with Swaminarayan Bhagwan.
Now before even trying to find out what this Shastra is or read the text within, you cant just blaspheme the Sampraday. For your convenience, here is the link – https://www.swaminarayan.faith/scriptures/en/shikshapatri/introduction/1
Sahajanand Swami/Swaminarayan Bhagwan, wrote this Shikshapatri as teaching to all His devotees. Today there are billions of followers of Swaminarayan Bhagwan and even today, there are miraculous feats that happen due to His prowess through HIs enshrined forms in the Temples. As, I said before, just because the owl doesn’t like brightness doesn’t mean the brightness doesn’t exist. Whomever your Ishtdev is, why don’t you meditate upon them sincerely and ask, is Swaminarayan God? Would you get an answerback? If you sincerely ask and are really inquisitive, you definitely will get a Yes back. But you must be inquisitive from the heart and not the mind. Bhagwan is one where the mind and speech of the human don’t work. Even to see Virat form, Arjun needed divine sight.
Read the first Slokha and others and its elaborations. Read any other you press your doubts on. But don’t just skim over it and argue back, even if you would like, find those mentioned authentic shastras and confirm the shlokas for your satisfaction.
Bhagwan Swaminarayan is ever-present (Pragat) through His Temples, Saints, Acharyas, Shastras, and Devotees. Yes, He is present through these BUT that doesn’t mean any Acharyas, Saints or Devotees can start classifying themselves as GOD just because some devotees start worshipping them as one! That is people for you. Those who do not know the shastra neither bother to read nor contemplate upon them and follow blindly.
On that note, I will still fulfill the earlier comment of quoting references from the Shastras.
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Such a typical ladudis. I didn’t bother reading your entire comment.
Great see how you don’t consider swaminarayan written shikshapatri as swaminarayn dharma’s main shastra.
And just make your day. Our Sanatan Dharma was born from your swaminarayan Dharma. ANd Ladudi is the greatest.
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Further to your comments here: February 10, 2021 at 10:30 am
I didn’t say the Holy Shikshapatri is not the main Scripture of the Sampraday, but as you did not read my entire comment, which I knew you wouldn’t anyway hence you missed that point.
‘You did not bother’ – as you are here with a baseless argument and don’t want to do your own proper research and spread hatred. Is this what our Sanatan Dharma teaches us? Clearly, that is not the ‘Sanatan Dharma Way’
By the way, I notice your English is not as up to scratch with the way you type and always are on the verge of abusive language. You seem like someone who wants to argue and blaspheme without accepting facts when they are clearly in front of you. So you seem like that owl (oloo) I talked about in my earlier comment, who denies the existence of the Sun just because he can’t bear the light.
You ‘chickened out’ of (Dargaya) my challenge to meditate upon your own Ishtdev sincerely and ask if Swaminarayan is God or not! Surely He will reply, would He not?
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Be at Peace
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As promised here are the references which you can surely make an effort and verify by checking the Shastras yourself (if in doubt!) – but don’t blaspheme and argue without doing your own research first. Are you bothered? – Ready? Here you go.
DONT SAY THESE HAVE BEEN ‘ALTERED’ as you can obtain copies yourself and verify.
NUMBER ONE – PADMA PURAN by SHREE VED VYAS
दत्तात्रेयः कृतयुगे त्रेतायां रघुनन्दनः | द्वापरे वासुदेवः स्यात् कलौ स्वामि वृषात्मजः ||
Dattatreyah Krutayuge, Tretaayaam Raghunandanah,
Dwapare Vaasudevah syaat, Kalau Swami Vrushaatmajah.
“In the age of Sat-Yuga, Lord Dattatreya will manifest. In Treta-yuga, Lord Raghunandan (Rama) will manifest. Vasudev, (Lord Shree Krishna) will manifest in Dwapar-yuga, and in the age of Kali-yuga, the son of Dharmadev, Lord Shree Swaminarayan will manifest.”
Vrush – another name for Dharmadev – atmajaha – one born from…Vrushaatmajah.
NUMBER TWO – BHRAMAND PURAN by VED VYAS
पाखण्डबहुले लोके स्वामिनाम्ना हरिः स्वयम् | पापपङ्कनिमग्नं तज्जगदुद्धारयिष्यति ||
Paakhanda-bahule loke Swami-naamnaa Harihi swayam,
paap-pank-nimagnam taj-jagad-uddhaarayishyati.
“When dishonesty has spread throughout society and the world has become immersed in a mire of sin, Lord Hari/Sahajanand Swami/Swaminarayan will manifest in order to liberate all.”
NUMBER THREE – VISHNU DHARMOTTAR by VED VYAS
महाधर्मात्यये पुण्ये नाम्ना पापविनाशके | हरिप्रसादविप्रस्य स्वामिनाम्ना हरिः स्वयम् ||
“When the principles of the elite religion are being destroyed, Lord Hari will manifest at the home of the Brahmin Hariprasad (Dharmadev). By the mere utterance of His name, sinners will be purified.”
NUMBER FOUR – VISHVAKSHEN SAMHITA
भूम्यां कृतावतारो वै सर्वानेताञ्जनानहम् | प्रापयिष्यामि वैकुण्ठं सहजानन्दनामतः ||
Bhoomyaam krutaavataaro vai sarvaan-etaan-janaan-aham,
Prapayishyami Vaikuntham Sahajanand-namatah
“Assuming the name ‘Sahajanand’, I will manifest upon this Earth and ensure that souls attain my divine abode.”
NUMBER FIVE – SHREEMAD BHAGWAT MAHAPURAN by VED VYAS
अन्योऽपि धर्मरक्षायै देह: संभ्रियते मया । विरामायाप्यधर्मस्य काले प्रभवत: क्वचित् ॥ १० ॥
I assume other forms to protect religion and to end irreligion whenever it flourishes in the course of time.
NUMBER SIX – SHREE VASUDEV MAHATMYA (SKANDA PURAN, CHAPTER 18, Verse 43-44) by SHREE VED VYAS
मया कृष्णेन निहताः सार्जुनेन रणेषु ये। प्रवर्तयिष्यन्त्यसुरास्ते त्वधर्मं यदा क्षितौ ॥ धर्मदेवात्तदा मूर्ती नरनारायणात्मना ।
प्रवृत्तेऽपि कलौ ब्रह्मन्! भूत्वाऽहं सामगो द्विजः। मुनिशापानृतां प्राप्तं सर्षि जनकमात्मनः । ततोऽविता गुरुभ्योऽहं सद्धर्मं स्थापयन्नज ।
All those Asuras killed in battle by Arjuna, and Myself will be born again. When they spread Adharma again on this earth, then, I will be born as Narayanamuni, in the Kosala country, as the son of my devotee Dharmadeva. (42-43)
O Aja! I will protect those sages born as men on account of the curse of a sage and establish righteousness. (44)
‘NarayanMuni’ – also a name of Swaminarayan given by his Guru Ramanand Swami.
These are only but some, maybe you can take out some time to actually read, understand, and then comment.
And even after reading these, you still feel that Swaminarayan is ‘fake’, then my challenge still stands to you – meditate upon your Ishtdev and sincerely ask -‘ is Swaminarayan God?!’ – You will get your answer and repent for the sins you have caused upon yourself for blaspheming God!
May God bless you!
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i should help here, All other avatars of Vishnu FAILED to stop adharma. they tried for hundreds of years but swaminarayan, he did it in just 49 years. thats probably why swaminarayans name is higher ~_~
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Well said. You deserve Nobel Prize!!
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Dear friend,
It’s not right that you say that as God does what He does best. We mere mortals become bewildered at his miraculous feats. All Avatars come for a specific purpose and after fulfilling it make their disappearance from the Earth and leave us their divine pastimes (leelas) to contemplate upon and purify ourselves by reading and remembering them. Remember that even Bhagwan Swaminarayan has commanded us in the 3rd Vachanamrut of Gadhda Pratham Prakran to remember the divine leelas of all Avatars EVEN THOUGH one may constantly see the form of GOD. Swaminarayan Bhagwan has never taught us to downsize other avatars. Downsizing them is directly downsizing Him. They all manifest from Him.
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If Swaminarayan was not a God only a Saint or Normal Person then How it become possible that till date we have Swaminarayan Temples worldwide more then any other sect of Hinduism. Swaminarayan is not a Fake but People who not understand AVTAR & AVTARI they only argue / question on him.
Yes He was so many time told eventually that He was incarnation of Lord Krishna. But He was a AVTARI of all lords. Lord Shiv, Lord Vishnu, Lord Surya, Maa Parvati & Lord Ganeshji are Five Spiritual Gods in Hindu Dharma. Lord Swaminarayan also mention in Shikshapatri that believe in them. He also mention that believe & follow to Vedas. Veds are installed to Hindu Dharma.
Now My Question is you believe that “Swaminarayan is different then Hinduism ?”
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Your fake swaminarayan, why is he only known in Gujarat and only in Gujarati. If he was born in UP, then people of UP shouldn’t have known his brilliance at young age??
You call fake swaminaryan avatari, yet fake swaminarayan wrote in shikshaptri slok 108 that Shri Krishna parbhram purshottam and cause of everything. For money and greed all sampraday changed shikshapatri.
For your kind information swaminarayan is not mentioned in Ved, nor Krishna or Ram. Only Shiva is mentioned in Ved.
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Swaminarayan Bhagwan no writing his own name because he was the humble so he put his priya avatar name of Krishna and becaus people no believe in Swaminarayan bhagwan as the god so he put Krishna name
Bhagwan mota che ke shastro… Tame jem kaho cho to evu lage che ke shastro bahgwan thi sarva shresht che
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Ofcourse your lame bava told you the story!!
Yet brainless people blindly follow fake swaminarayan.
Peace
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Who is the writing of this page ? This page trash bcoz there is no proof of any thing
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you call 200 year old above all other gods? What more proof do you need?
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people say krishna no god after 200 years krishna birth and now hindu people pray krishna everyday
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Oh yeah? Find me those people who said Krishna wasn’t god after 200 years!!
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Krishnastu Bhagwan Swayam .
It is very clear….
SwamiNarayan has done good thing. His Guru was from bonafide Ramanuja Sampradaya . What his followers speculated later is not his doing.
Vaisnavas are not mumukshus. They are fully surrendered to the Lord, their only desire is to serve and please Him in any condition of life.
To want mukti and merge in Bhagwan is Mayavada philosophy not pure Bhakti at all.
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That is very much true. With infinite number of swaminarayan sampraday has manipulated swaminarayan written shikshapatri.
These sampraday’s publication also has changed the sloks of Puran and Bhagwad Geeta to show swaminarayan superior and other gods as inferior to him.
It is a lie and deceit that fuel their propaganda; yet naïve person gets lure into their trap.
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Dear Shashikala Devi,
Uddhavji re-incarnated as Ramanand Swami at the holy command of Bhagwan Nar-Narayan and gained Bhagwad Diksha from Sri Ramanujacharya and established the Uddhav Sampraday later having Sahajanand Swami as His successor and thereafter known as the Swaminarayan Sampraday. We follow the Vishishtadwait Siddhant. It is a fully bonafide Vedic Sampradaya and you too look forward to the proofs I will present some time later. I trust you will not ignore facts from the Shastra like Mr ‘SanatanDharmaWay’ does and then calls it this is the Sanatan Dharma Way.
Your comments are towards those who ignore the philosophy originally propounded by Bhagwan Swaminarayan and cannot apply to those who follow the true principles.
Just because one apple two or three are bad in a batch, you don’t throw away the entire box. Check out the good apples.
Pranams!
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